Thursday, April 12, 2012

Engineering...any good?

[:1]Looking for another prof to change to as I have several with the same gathering skills.

I will be changing my warriors Skinning to BS to complement its Mining but that still leaves three profs I don't have.

Engineering

Jewelcrafting

Leatherworking

I don't have any leather wearers and have no idea if LW makes any money on my server, so was leaning more towards JC and Eng.

Is Eng any good for PVE, I believe a lot of the stuff you make is only usable by other Engineers so is it a profitable skill at any point?

So that leaves JC which I did start (barely) once, but dropped as it was too expensive to train at the time.

Forgot to add is Eng better for a certain class?|||Engineering is good because it gives you more abilities that are often situational (such as a net trinket, items that reduce an opponent's damage, speed boosts, parachutes, and straight up damage/healing/absorbtion, etc.).

The money-makers for this profession have essentially vanished in Cataclysm. Ammo has been done away with, and gas clouds don't seem to exist in the new zones (not that I've seen at least), so that leaves guns/bows, scopes, and Outland/Northrend elemental gas clouds as the money makers. The market itself for such items is rather... lacking, but it may depend on your server. People just aren't as likely to buy ranged weapons/scopes pre-level cap since quest gear is so nice, and the dungeon finder makes it easy enough to get rare loot.

All in all, its not very profitable now compared to other professions that can craft a wider variety of items to sell.

Jewelcrafting is probably the most lucrative of the three you listed, as it crafts items that all classes can use, and gems which people are always needing/replacing/changing out (and also giving you special, usually epic-level gems and nice trinkets for your own use). Aside from the rings/amulets, knowing the gem market is similar to knowing the glyph market for what sells best.

Leatherworking is a bit limited as it makes leather and mail items, but it also has the leg armors which are big sellers.|||You can make not only the CATA version of the epic head gear plus some high end pre epic ranged weapons, however these require you to complete level 85 heroics in order to get the needed Chaos Orbs.

The items are steep in price because of the mats you'll need (including Truegold), so depending on your server, there may or may not be a market.

You can still do scopes other things....|||My approach is to have enough gold to buy stuff I want or need, but I'm not getting any high score obsession. I know that there are people who have set themselves the goal to get max gold, but this aspect of the game doesn't interest me.

Of all the professions, I found JC to be the one that brings in the highest return for the least effort. Also, I didn't find it expensive to level - took mining as the other prof and switched to engineering when I started serious raiding on that char.

All I do with the JC char is to do the daily for the token and then buy whatever cuts are decent sellers (which is a bit hard now, as so many people are levelling JC, the cut items are significantly cheaper than the uncut ones). Once a day, I get the stuff from the mailbox that didn't sell and relist them. The cut gems that did sell (and aren't stupidly cheap) get cut again and listed. All in all, 10 minutes max per day and the gold flows in nicely.

The nice thing about JC is that every race and class uses them and when gear gets replaced, the need is there again (if it has a socket, of course !). Serious raider don't care what the best gems cost and just buy them.

In contrast with engineering, which is a so-called fun profession. Once I had levelled that to 525 (on the same char that has JC, btw), I wondered why I had bothered. Seemed to me to be a waste of time and effort (not to mention gold).

Apologies for rambling - tldr: JC will make a ton more gold than engineering.|||You're losing money with Eng because you don't have Mining, it's a direct support to Engineering. Or more to the point, with mining, you don't have to buy most of the mats you need as you can get them through mining.|||Eng does kinda strike me as a moneysink, probably why I never tried it.

I'm not that bothered if it isn't hugely profitable, but if you can at least break even as you level or know that after a certain point you will start to gain it back would be rather nice.|||You can make cash with Engineering...just just have to be aware of how to do it. I did it in WOTLK with motes in addition to selling ore I mined.

In CATA, I'm getting Volatile Airs while mining due to one of the Engineering items that just sits in my inventory.

Scopes and weapons are good too, not to mention non combat pets.|||The thing with with Engineering right now is that since they did away with gas clouds, the only way to get the extra volatile airs is if you have a gathering profession as well. So, if you aren't pairing it with mining, I'd be less inclined to take it at this point.

It is a fun profession, but honestly, having a JCer is more useful in my experience.

The problem with the fun stuff from professions is that Blizzard has a very annoying habit of breaking the fun stuff when people complain about it giving some minisule advantage in PvP. (Which is really dumb since they already don't allow the stuff in Arena and rated BGs. Yes, I'm still very bitter of them breaking Free Action Potions.)|||Quote:








You can make cash with Engineering...just just have to be aware of how to do it. I did it in WOTLK with motes in addition to selling ore I mined.

In CATA, I'm getting Volatile Airs while mining due to one of the Engineering items that just sits in my inventory.

Scopes and weapons are good too, not to mention non combat pets.




Sorry to be pedantic, but if you made gold selling mined ore, you didn't make it as an engineer :-)

I think the thing that causes it to be a gold-sink atm is the fact that people are still levelling up the prof and selling stuff in higher amounts than the demand.

Sure, scopes can sell and I think I made more in engineering with the mote extractor and from pets. Now that zapthrottle's gadget is no use, it seems kinda sad that engineering is reduced to making pets.|||While other professions are more useful in terms of stats and earning gold, Engineering has the lol factor which cannot be discounted. Rogues and maxed engineering go together like fire and gasoline.

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